Remove Accounts That Copy Unauthorized DLMM Wallets from the Airdrop

I get copytraded a lot, and I realised there is no way to stop them, but there are some ways to piss them off so they stop copytrading you.

  1. Keep changing wallets every few days or every week. But this is a risk as we have to keep moving funds. Use CEXs and bridges to make it harder to track. Make them work to track you.

  2. Open and close positions very quickly multiple times. This will piss off those that want to have nice looking profit graphs on LPagent to show off. If you do curve, sometimes those copytraders that has lag will open their positions late and might make a small loss, especially when the coin is dumping. When I had like more than 10 wallets copytrading me, I would spend 15mins-30mins just opening and closing positions repeatedly for fun. It shakes off some copytraders. Remember some of these copytraders are also potential scammers, they copytrade others, make good PnL graph then sell their ā€œservicesā€ to others. When you screw up their win rate, they will stop.

  3. If you have enough capital, drain their SOL into rubbish positions, like open multiple dlmm positions on a -90% to -95% range. Usually 5-7 positions would drain their capital into those pools. Then you can dlmm the pool you want. They have to manually cancel those positions.

  4. The whole point of copytrading is so that they don’t have to do the work, so make them work to copytrade us. Spread out capital into multiple wallets and dlmm randomly on these wallets, they have to work out which wallets is being used. Eventually they will stop copytrading cos they need to work for it, they will go find easier targets. Sometimes I would open a position on wallet A, then see many copytraders, then transfer funds into wallet B and open the position there and close the position on wallet A. When they realise you dont want to be copytraded they would just find other easier wallets to copytrade.

I find these measures did help shake off most of the copytraders, but eventually just moving to fresh wallets through a bridge is the most effective.

With an open blockchain like Solana, there is no way to stop them anyway, so make it hard for them to copytrade, make them work for it.

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Would it make sense for the airdrop to differentiate manual LPers and copy LPers?

eg. Maybe manual LPers are rewarded more points than copy LP?

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Differentiating manual and copy LPers for airdrops could incentivize active participation, rewarding manual LPers with more points for their effort and strategy. However, it risks alienating copy LPers, potentially reducing platform engagement. A balanced approach might offer slight bonuses for manual LPers while ensuring copy LPers still receive fair rewards to maintain inclusivity and encourage broader participation.

I think this will eventually help to balance the narration.

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Only people getting mad are farmers imo.
Some might be genuine. But most of the OG lprs welcome all these protocols and encourage them.

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Everyone here is worried about the airdrop. Haven’t seen any argument as for why copy wallet are bad for the protocol.

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Thank you for the advice LogicalTA. It’s comforting to see that I’m not alone in this struggle. Yesterday, after Mario’s announcement in the LP Army, I noticed that the majority of the community seems to be completely against copy trading and finds it unfair. All you have to do is read the messages after the announcement to see this. I hope the Meteora team listens to us.

Thank you for your suggestion, but honestly, if they take the SOL earnings and do nothing, I would be in favour of them receiving 0 from the airdrop. They receive the SOL, and that’s good enough. But it’s not up to me alone to decide.

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The arguments are the ones we present in every post. If you don’t agree with everything we’ve been saying from the beginning, that’s your choice, and you are free to have it. However, we are against unauthorized copy trading, as I have stated from the beginning in each of my posts. This practice is entirely unfair.

For the protocol, it brings more capital to the positions and thus generates more fees for the protocol. In return, the entire community gets followed and takes risks for people who do nothing. This dilutes the airdrop for small wallets that have no chance compared to bots with lots of capital, when all they had to do was ask us to bring in more capital if that was the issue. In summary, it’s unfair.

I want to clarify once again that i am not against copy trading, but against unauthorized copy trading, which is different.

Personally, I believe it may come from a rather limited perspective, and I’d like to offer a few thoughts for consideration:

  1. It’s true that LP copiers primarily identify quality LP wallets and benefit from the efforts of others. However, it’s also important to recognize that they face real risks — if the wallets they follow suffer losses, so do they. In DeFi, profit always comes with risk, and those who are willing to take on that risk arguably deserve the rewards that may follow.

  2. Blockchain is fundamentally permissionless. Criticizing individuals who engage in LP copying can also be seen as a criticism of the builders who develop tools like LP Agent. Across the broader DeFi space, there are thousands of copy-trade protocols and millions of users who participate in copy trading on various perp DEXs. It would be overly simplistic to label such practices as unethical.

  3. LPing via copy mechanisms still contributes meaningfully to the overall liquidity of Meteora. Airdrops and incentives are designed to encourage deeper liquidity. If copy LP wallets are helping to achieve that goal, it may not be fair to suggest that they’re undeserving of a share in those rewards.

I trust that the broader Meteora community will consider what truly serves the best interests of the protocol, the ecosystem, Solana and all of us who are part of it.

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Things could get really complicated here. If Meteora announces that all wallets copying from another wallet without permission will be disqualified from the airdrop, that raises a lot of questions.

How would that even be implemented?
How would it technically work?
Why are we hearing about this only now, and not earlier?

What does ā€œpermission to copyā€ even mean?
Would there be a formal request system? How would they record and prove that someone had permission? That would require an entire technical framework

Would it really be fair to disqualify people from the airdrop just because they used a bot?
For example, I personally used a bot. I was just curious how it works. But I was copying my own wallet the one I managed manually :laughing: It was an educational experience. I learned a lot, understood how it operates.
I never copied anyone else’s wallet — I didn’t want to take on someone else’s risks, I didn’t trust them, and frankly, I just preferred manual control. It’s more flexible and responsive to market conditions.

The issue is real though: copy-traders inflate TVL and earn fees without much effort — that part is true.

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Smart. Thank you for this

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Copy bots are a huge problem if you’re lping new low-cap coins.
I’ve been copied by over 40 wallets because my wallet got listed on LP Agent ā€œsmart walletsā€.

I was lping new tokens with 200k–1M mc, trying to provide real early liquidity and I got absolutely wrecked.
These bots all run 10% SL.

Do you realize how dumb it is to use a fixed 10% SL while lping ultra-volatile, low-liquidity microcaps?
One bot sells, it triggers another, then another = a full cascade.
They fuc**ed the momentum and destroyed most of the tokens I was Lping.

I lost close to 100 SOL in a single day.
I lost much more before I realized my wallet was being copied by so many people.
It’ll take weeks to recover from that.

I’ve invested a lot of time and effort manually mastering DLMM strategies on Meteora, learning how to navigate ultra-volatile, low-mc tokens.
Unfortunately, copy bots just replicate my positions without UNDERSTANDING the risks and dump at preset stop losses, destroying momentum and causing significant losses to real LPs.
It’s frustrating that hard work can be so easily exploited by automated leeches.

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Mikelmarcus — I think you’ve identified a real pain point.

Manual LPs like myself — people who invest time, skill, and research into choosing coins and developing successful strategies — are seeing profits eroded. Many feel not just financially undercut but morally violated by the rise of copy traders.

Meanwhile:

  • the tools charge fees,
  • Meteora’s TVL and protocol fees grow,
  • and copy trading bot users gladly pay for the convenience.

But the ā€œtalentā€ being copied sees little benefit. From their perspective, it feels like a net negative. And while growth is important, I believe Meteora must be cautious about growing on the backs of its most committed contributors.

That said, I also recognize the other side.

  • More decentralization is good.
  • More TVL is good for the protocol.
  • Copy LPing is part of a freer, more efficient market.

This shift was always going to happen — early LPs had an edge, but that edge fades. The landscape is evolving, and so must LPs.

Still, I don’t think this frustration is irrational. I believe it’s the result of tools being designed without consideration for the LP being copied. This is a design gap — and one that can be fixed.

Rather than trying to exclude copy traders from things like the TGE, we should push the toolmakers and the Meteora team to build with the LP in mind.

Tool creators should try to design for the talent in this equation too. Some ideas:

  • Create voluntary options to tip the copied wallet.
  • Explore Hyperliquid-style vaults, as suggested by @bryandub here.
  • Build tools that amplify the voice and visibility of the wallet being copied. Give them reputation, social capital, leaderboard status — turn this into social trading rather than invisible copying.
  • Develop match-making features: LPs could opt to trade with partners who copy and vice versa — pairing a long-term LP with a degen LP in a different timezone, for example, to maintain 24/7 exposure.

The Met Rising incubator could actively support builders working on these ideas with grants, bounties, or hackathons.

Separately, the Meteora team could improve close and swap functionality by using Jito bundle transactions. This would help ensure copiers can’t front run or dump ahead of the original LP’s exit.

If we continue building in ways that overlook the value of the LPs being copied, we risk turning the ecosystem into a max-PVP environment — where some LPs might even feel motivated to rug those copying them. We have already seen some instances of this.

I believe we should avoid that outcome by focusing on better design. We should reward the people driving strategy, not leave them feeling used. That’s how we grow sustainably — through cooperation, not combat.

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This is great, man. Hopefully someone from the team notices it

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This fixes the future of Meteora if it is done, but doesn’t solve the issue we have right now with the dilution from tge due to the thousands of copy bots. They are all showing how their ā€œbotā€ are making them rich on X with big fee score, low threshold for tge won’t be enough. Pretty sure nothing gonna be done, it’s part of the game. Sadge.

I just hope they reward properly the OG’s, the organic users..

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This proposal make alot of sense which addressing unauthorized copy trading, as it unfairly impacts manual LPs’ profits and airdrop rewards. Meteora should consider snapshot-based eligibility or higher points for manual LPs to ensure fairness, while maintaining inclusivity for all participants contributing to liquidity. Cooperation, not exclusion, is key.

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Very nice post, I really like the vision you want to convey.

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If such an announcement is ever made, I believe there will be a set date, and anyone who copied before the announcement will not be affected.

As for how to implement this automatically, I honestly don’t know. The only method I can see is a manual one, where known wallets send us the addresses of the wallets that copied them, along with proof. This proof could include similar amounts of SOL, entries and exits at almost the same second, and a repetition of these actions over time, as well as sales a few seconds prior.

Of course, people like you who copy their own accounts will not be affected by this. I don’t want to disqualify people who use bots, but rather those who do so without consent.

I don’t want to disqualify people who use the bot, but rather those who do so without consent.
Don’t worry, this post is not at all intended to penalise your profile. Rather, I would like to help you by improving the fair distribution of the airdrop :slight_smile: .

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The copy trade bots are a sanctioned dilution… by that I mean, in terms of protocol, the copy trades = more users, TVL and protocol revenue.

This dilution, at least in part, is the dilution Meteroa is looking for. Basically, it’s a form of adoption which in turn should translate to a bigger TGE.

When it comes to protecting early users, Soju already proposed amendments that weight rewards to those who were LP’ing early.

The looming challenge will also be, how do u define the difference between sybll and copy trader…

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